tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post5355080185909468642..comments2024-03-27T10:36:39.504+05:30Comments on tantu-jaal: Finally, a research institute in a university campusSunil Mukhihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05155823169161030174noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-27442850202908684682008-10-28T10:35:00.000+05:302008-10-28T10:35:00.000+05:30Oh, I see. I didn't know about this Pune universi...Oh, I see. I didn't know about this Pune university tie-up. Anyway, the new campus should be a welcome respite from the space crunch that the Mumbai campus is facing.Shanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00434657791700425418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-87740245981070220442008-10-20T00:38:00.000+05:302008-10-20T00:38:00.000+05:30I must point out that TIFR has merely decided to s...I must point out that TIFR has merely decided to set up a new campus in Hyderabad and has been allocated land for the purpose in the Central University campus. No "venture" has been announced wherein TIFR will be involved with teaching University students etc. As far as stated official policy goes, the second campus of TIFR would merely be an extension of the first one with some novel and some overlapping research areas.<BR/><BR/>In my posting I thought I had only observed that by virtue of its physical location, the second campus will have the <B>possibility</B> to fulfil the role we are all talking about. The subsequent discussion thread seems to have morphed into a "news item" on the lines of "TIFR starts joint venture with University". That's rather premature to conclude at this stage, so I suggest people defer giving their blessings to the "current venture" until there really is one!Sunil Mukhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05155823169161030174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-59106360602773224092008-10-19T19:11:00.000+05:302008-10-19T19:11:00.000+05:30Speaking as a former Pune U hand, the whole TIFR- ...Speaking as a former Pune U hand, the whole TIFR- Pune University experience is really one of my bad memories! However, I hope everyone has evolved since then, and the current venture does not meet with the same fate. One thing the research institute types need to remember, is that universities have a broader mandate than providing cannon fodder for research programs, whether their own or those of other people. However, this venture can work, provided participants on both sides take trouble to maintain some respect for the other parties' concerns. I wish this attempt every success, at least.Neelimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00082445340330003666noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-87364448342166850972008-10-19T07:21:00.000+05:302008-10-19T07:21:00.000+05:30Shanth: Sukratu is not talking about NCRA but abou...Shanth: Sukratu is not talking about NCRA but about a tie-up between TIFR and Pune Univ sometime in the mid-1980's. From what I remember, TIFR conducted an M.Sc. programme at Pune Univ wherein TIFR faculty would teach at Pune. Students of that programme would be given exposure to TIFR and offered graduate admission there if they did well.<BR/><BR/>I know some students who entered TIFR through this programme and they did well. So the programme itself was a success. However it did not prove sustainable and was closed down some years later. I can't go into all the reasons for that, partly because I don't know them. But I feel excessive physical separation was definitely a problem. TIFR faculty would have needed to live in Pune for a few months in order to teach a course.<BR/><BR/>In additional to proximity, it's also true that any Research Institute - University collaboration needs a certain professionalism and sensitivity, as well as a win-win mentality on both sides, in order to succeed.Sunil Mukhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05155823169161030174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-16364003020261639342008-10-19T04:20:00.000+05:302008-10-19T04:20:00.000+05:30This is really good news. It may be just what is ...This is really good news. It may be just what is needed to encourage students into research programmes, and improve our university systems.<BR/><BR/>@sukratu: Are you talking about NCRA (which maintains GMRT, and is still running) or was there some other TIFR Pune University programme?Shanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00434657791700425418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-66078249886550346102008-10-18T21:22:00.000+05:302008-10-18T21:22:00.000+05:30There was a TIFR Poona Universityprogramme several...There was a TIFR Poona University<BR/>programme several years ago which<BR/>wound up some years after it began.<BR/>I am sure somebody will have pointed this out before a venture which looks to be similar gets started.<BR/><BR/> So does one keep fingers crossed? Maybe it is too soon to wonder or maybe it is not. University academic culture is way too different. The emphasis on pedagogy is bound to be the stumbling block. To cultivate scholarship one needs a different attitude and a significantly different culture than what one encounters in research institutions that have remained secluded from the university set up. It is important to bear in mind that universities DO have interdisciplinary interaction (even if that might not be to a commendable extent). My own experience suggests that it does contribute to a balanced outlook within scholarship of individual disciplines, especially when students are involved. I further feel that it is perhaps essential for those who would like to achieve good scholarship at an early age. <BR/> Such a multi-disciplinary exposure may not be suitable for a<BR/>young mind which is to be trained for highly specialized research activities as distinct from scholarship. In fact, a multi-disciplinary 'distraction' may not be advisable in such a case according to many research guides! <BR/> <BR/> All this is only on the academic side. On the non academic stumbling blocks......lesser said the better!sukratuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05561209097080871154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-81928055567362537832008-10-17T19:08:00.000+05:302008-10-17T19:08:00.000+05:30This is also true but the land is for a different ...This is also true but the land is for a different purpose. More details were given in <A HREF="http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1198669" REL="nofollow">DNA newspaper</A> where it is stated that 19.3 acres near Bangalore have been allocated by the Karnataka government for TIFR's "International Centre for Theoretical Sciences".<BR/><BR/>The land in Hyderabad is over 10 times as much, and is for an entire second campus of TIFR that would have research groups in a wide variety of disciplines, much like the existing TIFR.Sunil Mukhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05155823169161030174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-25105415698018757332008-10-17T16:10:00.000+05:302008-10-17T16:10:00.000+05:30There is another article on The Hindu Business Lin...There is another article on The Hindu Business Line which says that the Karnataka government is going to allot land to TIFR! <BR/><BR/>http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blnus/27161751.htmRamananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11123448543333785121noreply@blogger.com