tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post3013447102149357464..comments2024-03-27T10:36:39.504+05:30Comments on tantu-jaal: "Stateless actors" - born on a desert island?Sunil Mukhihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05155823169161030174noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-56914835064438561232008-12-05T06:27:00.000+05:302008-12-05T06:27:00.000+05:30I admit I don't know what President Zardari may ha...I admit I don't know what President Zardari may have meant by the term "stateless actors", but from Ramanan's helpful reference it's indeed likely that what he wanted to get across was that the terrorists, regardless of their nominal, assumed or actual citizenship, were acting not on, for, or on behalf of any state. In other words, please do not blame Pakistan (the country) for the actions of certain groups and/or individuals (who may well be Pakistani, but not doing what they do on behalf of their nation).<BR/><BR/>That apart, to answer Sunil's question as to how anyone can end up as "stateless"; believe me, it's not very difficult. Just ask any one of the 300,000 stateless living in Sri Lanka.<BR/><BR/>The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees tells you about the problem of statelessness: <BR/><BR/>http://www.unhcr.lk/protection/statelessness/Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13256268880832397268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-78110493940819538672008-12-04T11:29:00.000+05:302008-12-04T11:29:00.000+05:30I think "non-state actor" is a technical term : ht...I think "non-state actor" is a technical term : <BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-state_actor<BR/><BR/>http://maic.jmu.edu/Journal/5.3/features/maggie_buse_nsa/maggie_buse.htmRamananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11123448543333785121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-66843799018048999402008-12-04T08:49:00.000+05:302008-12-04T08:49:00.000+05:30Anticargocultscience: If I had been arrested for t...Anticargocultscience: If I had been arrested for theft or murder in NYC, I would be an Indian and not a stateless actor. But perhaps what you say would apply if a group of miscellaneous people (linked perhaps by a common religion) had a murder syndicate in the US. Then indeed they could be called stateless actors.<BR/><BR/>Your basic point is well-taken: I was indeed being unduly harsh on Zardari, whose position (we tend to keep forgetting that he lost his wife to terrorism) is unenviable. If he were replaced by someone from a military or religious fundamentalist background, that would be a lot worse for all concerned.Sunil Mukhihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05155823169161030174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-538874342968130652.post-3746318882587759622008-12-04T01:20:00.000+05:302008-12-04T01:20:00.000+05:30Hello, I thought this post was a bit unduly harsh ...Hello, I thought this post was a bit unduly harsh on Zardari, especially in light of your other extremely balanced and laudable posts. The operative words in Zardari's statement were, "stateless actors", not merely, "stateless". I think this is a crucial distinction. The terrorists were "stateless actors" in the sense that, you would have been one if you had been arrested for theft or murder in say, NYC. <BR/>Whether or not the terrorists were infact "stateless actors" remains to be seen, but what Zardari precisely means by this term is very very obvious to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com